Muslim Groups Challenge the Merdeka Statement:Thought we are all Malaysians?

Posted: August 7, 2007 in Freedom of Speech

Muslim groups have rounded on those behind the recently launched ‘Merdeka Statement’, saying the contents appear to be renegotiating the social contract and validating apostasy according <“Malaysiakini posting today”>

Some of the issues that bothered this group apparently that the Merdeka statement was TOO MERDEKA(lols), feeling that it would challenge the social contract and promote apostasy, I mean come on!! You say Malaysia is for all races, we live in harmony blah blah and you still want to challenge this sort of thing, isn’t it racist ah? You want things for your own kind and the rest buat aper?Merana ker? I think the policies that has lived throughout this 50 years some provide injustice,some provide racial divide and to continue to do that means we are so NOT MERDEKA ….how can we claimed to have progress if things do not change I ask you?I ask you one question this whole issue of Malayisa being for everyone is just make-up for the world to see or shall I say cover-up when actually its each to its own like our politically divided parties by race ah?

Do read <“Haris Ibrahim posting on the statement”> for an insight into the Merdeka statement and please tell me what is wrong with it that these muslim groups have to challenge it and cry foul!!!! I really want to know!

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Comments
  1. Dr Syed Alwi Ahmad says:

    Until such time when the Malaysian Malays have become more mature with regards to issues on race and religion – you have to expect more of this kind of nonsense ! Thank God I am a Singaporean !

  2. haha says:

    haha…and they said non-bumis should not ask for special threatments coz its not fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!….LOL

  3. sure? says:

    friend , these morons always try to say white is black, and black is white…
    the bottom line is:

    protect the racist poilicy in order to continue exploiting the hard works of others who do not benefit from this policy.

    What a shame to this particular race. Lack dignity??

  4. mastersaint says:

    I think questioning the social contract and making demoralising statements on the
    Merdeka Statement is being ignorant of the whole scenario of our history and our nation’s achievements and growth as can be witnessed today. The non-Malays’ contribution in particular in making this country wealthy and rich is slowly purposely being forgotten by the calculative and intelligent moves of the Malay elites by masterminding this plot since the Independence. The womensfolk of these ignoramus will be working as housemaids and mensfolk will be migrant contract workers at neighbouring countries if the effort and hardwork of each and every individual in this country regardless of race – the non-Malays’ contribution in particular , is unintelligently and arrogantly dismissed in the name of Malay hegemony.

  5. julee says:

    Malaysia is a secular state. It was so when we attained independence in 1957 and it is still so, today. To say otherwise, is absolutely nonsensical.

    These problem and confusion were all brought about by none other than our prime minister of 22 years – Dr Mahatir. He is the culprit and if the country suffers in any way as a result of what is taking place today – it is all due to his incompetence and arrogance.

    He was a dictator in his own right and made many questionable decisions that has brought about upheavals amongst the various races. The non-malays cannot accept an Islamic state per se.

    All they want is to be left alone to practice their faith in peace. The Muslims can go about and follow the true teachings of Islam and likewise practice their faith in peace as well. This is all there is to it.

    Why then do they insist on wanting to use the term Islamic state now when they know pretty well that it was not one at the time independence was obtained! Let the status quo remain as it was.

  6. samp says:

    I am very please Badawi admits that Muslim countries are among the world most-corrupted. Look no further, just look at Malaysia. Want to learn corruption? Come to Malaysia. We will set up universities to teach that.

    It is the Muslims (those ignorant and confused) that are corrupt. Their leaders show very bad example and stop calling their countries Islamic countries. They are not Islamic countries – they are just countries run by false leaders – they are not Muslim leaders.

    Right on, man. Could not agree with you more. Malaysia indeed is one of the few top corrupt countries in the world. Soon it will put Nigeria and Indonesia into shame! Using religion as a fascist front to enrich the BN gangs is sub-human and evil.

    In fact, the whole religion set up in Malaysia is a direct duplication of the Hitler regime, with the Hitler youth now reemerging. Using this power to enrich the gangsters, as history shows it, will not last.

    The World Bank has shown that reducing corruption by a small percentage will yield a 3 to 4 times rise in GDP per head. That talking about reducing poverty is a lot of bullshit. By just talking about reducing corruption in international arena to make fame without any knowledge of corruption’s implication is sheer stupidity and we have it in Malaysia, time and again.

    Islam itself is a corrupted religion. They copy Jews and Christianity religions. Then stole Pagan Temple and take away Hajar Aswad the Pagan God. Hmm what a shame?

    Our prime minister is full of shit. When Israel attacked Lebanon, he voiced out. But when Umno Youth attacked MCA, he didn’t know about it!

    When corruption is so blatantly happening in Malaysia, he keeps quiet but can talk in conference about other Islamic countries. What! Look at the speck in your own eye first! Don’t close one eye and peep through the other.

    Why worry about others when our very own “half-past-six” ministers are worst than the armed-robbers, because they rob the whole nation under the pretext of helping the bumis.

  7. reek says:

    Yes, which Islamic country in the world today is strong in technology science, R&D, literature, etc?

    The answer is a big NONE!

    Drop Islam and malays would be a better race!

  8. fargoman says:

    Ah……….the history lessons begin again.

    As much as the malays do not like the “Orang Putih”. These “Orang Putih” built infrastructures and schools for Malaysia. Yes, they did have an economic agenda, but on the whole, it is believed that they did more good than harm.

    Now, please read “Melayu Journal” published by Dewan Bahasa Pustaka 2005. It clearly states that the “contract” which you speak so lovingly of, was issued only for a duration of 15 years.

    It was tagged under the NEP. Since the NEP failed miserably, it was “extended” under a new name called the NVP. When that failed too, it has once again been “extended” under the new name of the NDP. In a nutshell, it has failed for 50 years.

    Don’t the malays smell something amiss here? Put in perspective, our Malaysia government has publicly announced to the world, that despite targeted government aid for half a century, the malays are so hopeless, stupid and useless that they still cannot fend for themselves.

    Think hard not with emotion, but look at the fact. This fact is very very embarrassing for Malaysia. As it says that the malays are not able to succeed despite being given aid for half a century.

    Back to more serious business: The NEP, NVP and NDP or by whatever name you call it tomorrow. So for 50 years, it has “dished out” money to the malays. Realistically, how many of you received that money?

    Except for the elite few who sit on the “high and mighty” seats of the government. And that is why, to continue to receive that “special bumi aid” money, they have to insist that there is racial tension in the country. In fact, they promote it by virtue of fact that “race-based organizations” still exist till today.

    The Orang Asli also fall into the bumi category. They arrived here 60000 years ago (mind you, the first Indonesian arrival was only 3000 years ago).

    Jabatan Orang Asli has been “actively” helping them for the past 50 years. They still live in the jungle. Where I may ask, has that allocated money gone to? Many proponents have insisted that Jabatan Orang Asli has been “helping themselves” instead.

    Go to any Orang Asli settlement and see it for yourself.

    Your money. Take it back. Or forever live like paupers.

  9. aston says:

    Racism in Malaysia is apparent to anyone who has eyes! Malays are just a bunch of cripples who will collapse to the ground if their tongkat is taken away.

    Remove their constitutional rights, their 7% discount on houses, their 30% equity in companies, their quota system in public universities etc……….what is left?

    Only a bunch of malays ……

  10. tim says:

    Come next election, most decisive or important votes will still come from the Chinese, which will be significantly less if those work in overseas and Singapore didn’t come back and vote, plus the usual who hope their lives will be taken care of other voters and think there is no need to vote.

    The Chinese who voted will be split among Gerakan, MCA, DAP. Between the three, Gerakan and MCA always seem to be a safer choice, God knows why. Try talk politics with your fellow family, friends, colleagues, you will be quite surprise how ignorance many people can be.

    Many had given up hopes that things will change in Malaysia. If next election, opposition failed to make any significant gains, then is time to think about emigration.

  11. coolooc says:

    Sad to say without the Chinese and other non-malay races in Malaysia and Indonesia, the region will be the backwater of Southeast Asia.

    The malays cannot stand on their own feet. Just compare the GDP contribution of non-malays present and past against the malays.

    Sadly, the most Middle Eastern civilization are Islamic based on their God Allah and they are a failure compared to western civilization based on human ideology. This is partially why Malaysia ‘tak boleh maju’, as its policies are based on religion and race.

    Oh wait, to that malay who says ‘majority is always right’. Certainly, you still have a long way to go. You are not ‘sons of the soil’. The Orang Asli, not malays, are the rightful owner of Malaysia.

    You guys stole the land from them, just like your Arab brothers who tried to force their religion on others by military conquest in hopes of dying for your God and copulate with the 72 virgins in Muslim paradise! Cheers.

  12. kelly says:

    I am not trying to show off with my qualification. What I am trying to say is that Malaysia will lose out if all these highly educated and qualified people do not want to go home.

    Frankly, I have start up my family in the UK and also a very successful business. I have been working towards my success starting from zero. Not even 1 cent or penny from the Malaysia government.

    I am fed up with the corruption and discrimination in Malaysia. I agree with somebody “if we disagree with Malaysia government policies that are based on race and religion then we should move out of the country” and I did.

    Some people might say I am coward or traitor but why should I stay if the government treats me as nothing? I feel human living in the UK and everyone is being treated the same no matter what is the colour of your skin.

    Imagine living in a country which people like Haji keep calling “this is Islamic country, if you don’t like it, get out”. Or the future leader like Khairy saying something unreasonable.

    I feel ashamed and insecure. I cannot see the future for the next generation. Therefore, sorry to say but I am a proud British now.

  13. honyang says:

    Don’t waste your breath. They BN steal the country blind, they strike deals amongst themselves so that all of them can stick their hands into the country’s till, then they fight amongst themselves when one group doesn’t get to steal as much as another group.

    Then to divert attention, they blame the Chinese. The Chinese parties are told, “Hey, don’t worry, all this is for show only, you can continue to feed off the crumbs from the table.” and the circus continues.

    They announce programs to help the poor, then they take them away through robberies like medicine labeling. They own private hospitals, so it is in their interests to let public hospitals deteriorate.

    Make no mistake about it – the hardcore poor are still mainly from one race, and unfortunately they are being conned into voting these thieves back in at every election.

    49 years of independence? It is more like 49 years of growing independence for Umno selfish and unilateral ambitions for one community. And 49 years of deterioration for the MCA and MIC into mere puppets in the BN.

    MCA and MIC are no more effective in defending the rights of the minority communities in Malaysia, as they are easily overpowered and silenced by Umno every time there is an interracial issue.

    A vote for MCA or MIC is effectively a vote for Umno. It is better for MCA and MIC to leave BN, in order to represent their communities more effectively.

    Wahoo! MCA Youth demands “apology” from Khairy for playing the racial card. Excellent leadership it may seem but wait a moment………They are saying that they have always been obedient and servile to their master (Umno) and now their loyalty is been doubted.

    MCA is one of the main reasons for the systemic problem prevailing in Malaysia. So don’t bloody pretend you are able to stand up for meritocracies.

    With the increasing arrogance, greed and selfishness of Umno, with the MCA and MIC relegated to puppet status, less than a few percent of non-malay taxpayers money return to their own community.

    Almost all of non-malay taxpayers money goes into projects that benefit and enrich the malay community. This is set to worsen in the years to come. BN is a racist party and does not deserve any support from the non-malays for all the injustices it has done to them. Off the soapbox.

    49 years, we have our independence from the British. But think about it more intensely. Are you sure that we have really got our independence!

    At the beginning, Tunku had led us to the independence. But after that era, the Umno who inherited power from Tunku turned around and form the new breed of “colonial master”.

    In the name of various beautifully sounding policies. The new colonial master is more interested to channel goodies into its own exclusive elite members. Except for some miserable spillover, all really deserving poor irrespective of races hardly receive any thing.

    The problem is most people think joining the opposition is a suicide and we should just become always contain and feed the lion and its herd so we might not be eaten.

    Young educated Malaysians must now rise up and be responsible to our country before things go out of hand! If we can’t criticise our government and they are always in a state of denial – change them – nothing to lose.

  14. cherwith says:

    I really appreciate all your comments but some of you talk about racism and etc but when you comment you insult another’s religion and race, so that makes you just as racist and not very much better than them right?Who are you to say which religion is better?Isn’t that being ethnocentric? Thinking your race is superior to another?I’m neither a Malay nor a Muslim but I respect each person decision to whatever religion they belong to.Something else that I would like to say is that Not ALL the Malays should be bulked into the same category, actually Malays,Indian.Chinese shouldn’t even be classified as per their race rather their nationality, Malaysian. It is wrong I belief to judge a whole race by the actions of specific individuals. I have a lot of Malay friends that are not only smart,hardworking and earned their right to live and have a good life should like anybody else. So do be careful what you say for in the end your only being a hypocrite.

  15. Cher, I could not agree with you more.

    You cannot combat racism with racism, as you would fire with fire.

    Race and religion bashing merely plays into the hands of the racists out there in the real world.

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